Ep26 GabrielleThil Youtube
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Sara Ferrer: [00:00:00] Welcome to Fearless and Flawed. Today our fearless female founder is Gabrielle Thil. Gabrielle helps women who long for love but fear heartbreak, reconnect with their true radiant selves, so they naturally attract soul deep relationships. After a life changing 1600 kilometer pilgrimage, she swapped law and film for energy healing, and now guides women from.

Sara Ferrer: Fear to fierce self trust. And I’m Sara, an email marketing pro converting clicks into cash.

Serena Reynolds: And I’m Serena and I make brands stand out from the noise elevating thought leaders into go-to experts together. Sara and I are two women in charge, diving into the fearless, flawed, and fabulous journeys of female entrepreneurs.

Serena Reynolds: So Gabrielle. Your journey into mindfulness began over a decade ago. What was the [00:01:00] pivotal moment that led you to this path?

Gabrielle Thil: So it was really my, my own healing journey, which led me to this path. I had an autoimmune disease, which is a vitiligo, so it’s pigmentation of the skin, so it makes your skin all white.

Gabrielle Thil: And of course, so when it started, it was in my 25th year, but then it evolves and it, it evolves. And so my skin started to get. Whiter and whiter, you know, which is when you are a young woman, when you are in your late twenties, early thirties, you know, and you are single and you’re dating and you want to, you know, be seductive.

Gabrielle Thil: You know, it’s, of course takes you to a place where it’s very vulnerable because. People start to look at you strange way, you know, because, because you look a bit weird, you know? So I really needed to do some work on, on myself to really come to a place of acceptance and, and also [00:02:00] trusting, learning to trust myself again.

Gabrielle Thil: And so this is what led me to somatic work. So this is when I really started to work. On my body because I had done, took therapy in the past. But discovering the somatic work and, and, and, and starting to really dive into the wisdom of my body really shifted many things and, and also I. Led me to my spiritual path, and this is when spirituality came back into my life because I had put it aside on the side, you know, for a long time.

Gabrielle Thil: And so this healing journey became a spiritual healing journey at some point. And, and this is. What led me to learn more about, uh, energetic, you know, emotional intelligence and, uh, nervous system regulation and, and things like that, which I used today in, in my work. And it was really the start of something completely different.

Gabrielle Thil: And this is what led me as, as you explained, uh, in the intro to [00:03:00] my pilgrimage on El Camino Santiago. And Sara, you might have heard about it because you live in Spain now. And this is when actually, you know, I, I took a leap of faith. I decided to follow my inner guidance, my, my soul, my intuition, and yes, started this pilgrimage path, uh, just.

Gabrielle Thil: You know, not knowing if I, if I would ever arrive at Santiago at some point, because it was a large path. But yeah, this leap of faith was really life changing for me because I actually met my husband on the Camino de Santiago and so it was 20 years ago now. And so we’ve been together since.

Serena Reynolds: So, so just so our international, uh, our American and our Brit audience understand, so we said 1600 kilometers.

Serena Reynolds: That’s. Nearly a thousand miles. I looked it up. I’ve done the conversion for you. So that’s quite a hike. Was it just walking? [00:04:00]

Gabrielle Thil: Yes, absolutely.

Serena Reynolds: It was an assumption. It was walk,

Gabrielle Thil: it was, it took me two months. I started on June, June 3rd. I still have the, the date, um, June 3rd, 2004. And I arrived August 3rd, 2004.

Gabrielle Thil: So it was a, a two month look. So, so before you did this, you were a lawyer, is that correct? You were in law. I was a lawyer specialized in intellectual property law, so copyright law. So I, I worked as a lawyer for two to three years, but then I, I really, uh, was feeling the calling to go into something more creative.

Gabrielle Thil: So I stayed in the entertainment industry because I always. Already was working in the entertainment industry as a lawyer, but I switched gear and, and became a documentary director and also started to work on TV set as a coordinator, artistic coordinator. So I loved my work and still I have this. [00:05:00] Very vulnerable, um, autoimmune disease and also complicated love life.

Gabrielle Thil: So this is really what led to my healing, spiritual awakening, and, and a completely different path.

Serena Reynolds: So you met your husband on this hike, on this very long hike 20 years ago. Yes. Yes. And so, um, and that still led you to, to build this, this business around healing and relationships?

Gabrielle Thil: Yes, absolutely. Because once you opened the door of personal development, you never close it back.

Gabrielle Thil: I would. Say you never shut it down. And so, and then it’s, it’s really diving in deeper and deeper into the work. And it, there, there is a point where you feel called to share a bit more, you know? And, and so I started to receive, you know, questions from women who were interested in my, in my journey. And, and this is how I, I, I started [00:06:00] to, to, to share a bit more professionally also.

Gabrielle Thil: So, so yes, uh, the, the two. The two came together.

Sara Ferrer: Fascinating. I, I have so many questions because I think you, you know, you mentioned that you, you, the vitiligo Correct. Was kind of that point that. It, it is. And just to clarify, it’s, it’s an autoimmune disease where the pigmentation, it usually, it begins in the extremities, I think first.

Sara Ferrer: Right. The pigmentation, you, you lose it. So there is, you know, especially if you’re have a tan or you’re more darker tone, it’s really obvious and perhaps can be, can, can cause lower self-confidence. And that’s kind of what you alluded to. You’re, you’re this young seductive French woman who’s dating and, and naturally we all go through it where we’re all very self-critical, just.

Sara Ferrer: You know, just by nature every day. Right? And now you’re saying, Hey, I’m seeing something that other people are seeing and I can’t necessarily hide. So what I’m understanding is that was kind of the catalyst for you to say, okay, [00:07:00] how do I, how do, because you mentioned somatic healing, which I wanna get into, but was that the catalyst of you saying, Hey, I need to learn to love myself, or I need to learn how I’m going to deal with this?

Sara Ferrer: ’cause my understanding is there’s no reversal. Of the, of vitiligo. So was that the beginning? Was it just the skin condition or was there also some like, Hey, I’m also professionally, I’m not where I wanna be or love Lifewise. I’m not where I wanna be. It sounds like there may have been, ’cause what, you know, if you were in your mid twenties or early thirties, was there just a lot of cross.

Sara Ferrer: Cross paths happening where you were more ripe to say, who am I? What do I want? You know, what, what type of woman am I? My femininity, my, my, the business side? Like where, just elaborate because I think to get from that to where you are now, I wanna understand. More than just like, Hey, I’m gonna go on YouTube and like watch a self-development class.

Sara Ferrer: Or, Hey, I’m gonna do a meditation. You dove deep and you [00:08:00] really continue deep. So what does that look like with the somatic healing? What is somatic healing and how did you maintain the momentum, the inertia? To which hap to which, uh, Serena had alluded to you go on this Camino. And you find the love of your life, which I see the connection there of, she doesn’t feel desirable and seductive yet.

Sara Ferrer: X number of years later when she is healed or in the process of healing, she finds love. So can you just kind of very high level for those of us who are dipping our toes. In that world, what does that look like, high level process at that time?

Gabrielle Thil: So I was a documentary director and RGC coordinator on t on TV series sets.

Gabrielle Thil: So I was quite happy in my professional life, you know, I was doing something which was creative and, and inspiring and a bit of challenging also. But I really love that. So it’s really my, my [00:09:00] vitiligo, which is, as you were sharing my skin, getting. Wider and wider, which led me to some somatic work. So what is somatic work?

Gabrielle Thil: It’s, it’s actually, so soma means body in Greek. So somatic work is really working with the body and it’s really about learning to embrace your emotion, feel, feel your emotions, because usually there are so many things we don’t want to feel because we’re so afraid of. Getting lost in, in, in the process and learning to feel is actually what you do in, in, in somatic work because there is a, a process, you know, so that you don’t avoid feeling, but you don’t get lost either in your feelings.

Gabrielle Thil: And, uh, and, and usually when people. Haven’t learned how to, to feel their emotions and their, their feelings, their sensations. They either try to surprise them or get lost in, into them and, and, and get overwhelmed and, [00:10:00] and it’s, you know, feeding ourselves is, is great, but there is, there is a point when it can become destructive.

Gabrielle Thil: So, so, so it’s, it’s really learning new ways, new tool, which are safer for you and actually. Also increase your capacity to hold more. Uh, and so this is what somatic work is about. It’s really learning how to feel and also. Increase the capacity of your nervous system to, to, to hold more so that you have more resistance, resilience, and stamina to actually face challenges in your life.

Gabrielle Thil: You know, instead of starting to reduce your, um, the, the, the amount of things you, you, you do because you’re, you’re so afraid of, of, of feeling what. What, what, what you will have to feel, you know? So, so it, it’s really a beautiful path to to, to actually help you enjoy your life at some point, you know, instead of.

Gabrielle Thil: You know, being tense and constricted.

Sara Ferrer: Did you have a teacher or was [00:11:00] there a course, or were you like, YouTubing this, like, how were you learning about that?

Gabrielle Thil: I, I wanted to see a teacher. It’s, it’s important to, to be guided, you know, and, and there is a beautiful trusting relationship with, with a somatic healer, with somatic guide, you know, because, because yes, it’s very vulnerable to, it’s, it’s really about coming back to your body.

Gabrielle Thil: The thing you don’t want to experience, you know? So, so yes, this. Trusting relationship is, is, is fundamental. So yeah, I worked with, with a beautiful woman who, who now has passed, but yes, she, she was a beautiful woman who hold space for me in a beautiful way. And she’s also the one who actually introduced me to my spiritual teacher.

Gabrielle Thil: So both were linked at some point because, uh, because by making my. First, my, my somatic, uh, guide that she then introduced me to my spiritual teacher, who actually her old work, her whole work was around [00:12:00] relationships. So she was a capitalist. So my, my first spiritual teacher was a capitalist. Uh, so she was a Jewish woman who had lots of wisdom, lots of knowledge, and she was sharing her, her knowledge and wisdom around the Kabbalah and relationships.

Gabrielle Thil: And this is. This thing, which didn’t work in my life also. So it, it really was a beautiful, you know, a cross paths at some point. And uh, and it really allowed me to dive deeper into energetics. So I had done the somatic work, so that emotional healing work and nervous system healing work was my somatic teacher.

Gabrielle Thil: And with my spiritual teacher, I really dived into the energetics. So it was a whole new world which opened, which, which was very complimentary actually, because it’s always wonderful to step into energetics when you, when you can back up. Also the emotional and the nervous system [00:13:00] part. So, so yes, both.

Gabrielle Thil: Well, and I learned more about, you know, feminine masculine energetics in relationships, polarity in relationships and, and all this work, which was, um, a big awakening for me because I had never heard about that before. Because in, in, in, in Paris in, in, uh, in France at that time, you know, the, the, the men healing.

Gabrielle Thil: Tool, which, which was existing, was to therapy. You know, there, there was very little about, uh, you know, traditional, traditional to therapy like, um, psychoanalysis. Psychoanalysis. So, uh, somatic work was really the beginning in France at that time, and the energetic work hardly, hardly was mentioned. So, so it, it really was a big awakening for me and like my whole world was changing.

Gabrielle Thil: I, I, I really shifted my perspective on my life and really. Instead of feeling like the victim of [00:14:00] my past, I started to really take responsibility and, and elevate my own standards.

Serena Reynolds: So, Gabrielle, how did you turn this deep? Your, your deep understanding, emotional healing, into a tangible, transformational business, and how does that impact your clients and relationships and their lives?

Gabrielle Thil: I first started as a yoga teacher. So because, uh, because yes, one thing led to another one, and, and once you are in the energetics, the kini world appeared on my path. So I, I became a kini yoga teacher and I did lots of work around. Conscious relationships also from the yoga point of view. And this is when I started to teach Kundalini yoga and also host workshops around, uh, energetics, feminine embodiment and relationships.

Gabrielle Thil: And this is when everything started professionally. [00:15:00]

Serena Reynolds: So how does the role of embodiment play in creating sustainable change? And why do mindset only approaches often full, full?

Gabrielle Thil: So mindset is great, but if you don’t back it up with emotional and energetic tools, at some point it’s limited, I would say, because you really need to learn to regulate your nervous system and.

Gabrielle Thil: And really I would say that my professional journey has been really an awakening also, because it can feel so vulnerable sometimes. You know, especially when you shift gear, you know, because I have, I. Shifted different times. Also, I changed country different, different times because I used to live in France.

Gabrielle Thil: Then I, my husband is Spanish, so I moved to Spain, but then we decided to go and live in to Australia, so, so [00:16:00] we moved to Australia. Then we came back to Spain, and then a few years later we decided to go and live in the UK and then came back to Spain. So, so actually having those somatic tools and, and knowing how to regulate my nervous.

Gabrielle Thil: System and be more resilient and be more flexible and readapt because when you change country, you have to readapt completely, start from fresh. And when you shift careers, you also have to readapt. It can be very vulnerable emotionally, and you can. You feel a bit lost, um, you actually feel lost. And so if you have the tools to actually sustain yourself emotionally and e energetically, it’s so much more easy though.

Gabrielle Thil: It, it’s still difficult, but, uh, it’s a lot more easier. It a lot more easy, lot easier. You get me? Yeah,

Sara Ferrer: that makes sense. I mean, I think what you’re saying is what, what I’m in understanding ’cause you’re, you’re explaining it wonderfully, but what I’m in [00:17:00] understanding is that once you have these tools, right, once you emotionally regulate, it’s more than just your thoughts.

Sara Ferrer: It’s your nervous system and everything kind of creating this chain reaction. But, you know, Gabrielle, for the listeners who say, listen, we got listeners who are, you know, CEOs, mothers, they’re running the whole ship and they go, Gabrielle, I. What can I do to dip my toe in this or to, to, to try to lean into this in a way where I can’t do a full cannonball in, right?

Sara Ferrer: Like I can’t, I can’t commit fully because for whatever reason people are scared of the unknown. People sometimes don’t realize how big the problem is. So with your experience, what would you say to the average Joe who’s listening, who’s like, yeah, I wanna feel more content, I wanna. Feel more okay with not being okay.

Sara Ferrer: I wanna have more tools and tricks. Where does one begin in a very approachable manner. On this journey,

Gabrielle Thil: starting with reconnecting with our breath is [00:18:00] actually a great starting point, you know, because our breath is really our life force energy and also our pleasure, you know, especially because I work a lot with CEOs also and, and women who hold a lot professionally and sometimes the pleasure part is the last.

Gabrielle Thil: Part of the to-do list, you know, and, and so really reconnecting with our pleasure, which is also, which regulate our nervous system, is actually a beautiful way to, to start doing some somatic work in a very light way, you know? So I would say both, yes, the breath and also the pleasure part.

Sara Ferrer: Which, what does that mean when you say reconnect with pleasure?

Sara Ferrer: Does it mean like, Hey, I really love chocolate cake. Eat a slice of chocolate cake. Does that mean like. Hey. No, no, I’m, I’m curious. It doesn’t mean like, Hey, I find pleasure in my family. Okay, disconnecting, what does that look like? Because pleasure to me, can be a whole gamut of like simple things to like, I really gotta work [00:19:00] hard to be in the moment, but I know I find pleasure in it.

Gabrielle Thil: Yeah, so pleasure can, can embrace so, so, so many different things and it’ll depend on every person, but I would really say something which is connected with, with your body. So it could be a massage, it could be a long bath, it could be, you know, dancing a little. So yeah, something which is, uh, uh, reconnecting yourself with your body and, and, and really starting to feel.

Gabrielle Thil: And because when you do some somatic work, it’s always important to start in a, in a place where you feel good. You know, before diving into, before, slowly diving into more difficult feelings or sensations or emotions. It’s important to have a reference. Points, you know, where you actually feel good, you know?

Gabrielle Thil: And so, you know, you can always come back to this feeling before diving into something else. So, so yeah, it’s really [00:20:00] something which. It gives you nice sensations in your body. So it can be a soft touch, it can be tensing a little, it can be a massage.

Serena Reynolds: It can be very self-indulgent. If we’re busy women, how, I mean the, the women I know would, would say, how do I find time for this?

Serena Reynolds: I’m juggling everything

Gabrielle Thil: I understand and also when, when you get into this space where you are connected to your pleasure and so you feel more regulated, nervous system side, actually you access places within of deep inner knowing. So you go beyond the mind and actually you can be more focused and operative for the rest of your day.

Gabrielle Thil: You know, so it’s, it, it won’t take time out. It will actually allow you to do things in a more effective way or in a quicker way afterwards because you will be more regulated and so you will be a [00:21:00] lot more efficient and, and coming from a place where you are not just in the todo list, but actually in something which is, which has more impact.

Gabrielle Thil: So who is your client base? Who, who comes to you for this? So I work with women who usually are single or so. Either they have come out of a, a relationship and, and, and need to do a bit of healing work, or they have been single for some time and they feel that there is a mismatch with. The men. Then there are meetings, so, so they need to receive a bit of guidance to start their healing journey and also learn how to trust themselves again, when it comes to love and relationships, because usually there is a lot.

Gabrielle Thil: Of there is a lack of self-trust. They know, you know, they don’t trust themselves because their past has been hurtful. Their past relationships have been hurtful, and so they’re in the, in this place where they have the desire [00:22:00] for something different, some more, I would say still, they, they, they are so afraid of being hurt again, that they don’t, they don’t take any, any steps to.

Gabrielle Thil: Get closer to their desire. So,

Serena Reynolds: so how do these women find you? Where, where, where is it that they go? Where is it that you advertise from the business perspective? Where is it that you are? Showing up and being present.

Gabrielle Thil: Yeah, so it’s word of mouth. Of course, clients who have worked with me in the past and also I am involved in many communities either in Madrid and where, where I live and also online.

Gabrielle Thil: So I really believe in the power of. Community and, and really sharing genuinely your work and, and how you can help and serve and, and creating those lovely connections and, and, and relationships. When actually, because the work I do, I. Uh, [00:23:00] it’s really about, you know, this trusting relationship i I co-create with, with my clients.

Gabrielle Thil: So, so it’s actually important that they can feel my energy and, and feel, feel safe in my presence and, and really, you know, trust that we can, we can do this work together. So, so I really love having, you know, info. Contact initially, and, and then they learn more about my work and, and feel called to. Uh,

Serena Reynolds: so is this done virtually or is this done in person?

Serena Reynolds: Do you have to be in the physical room with people?

Gabrielle Thil: Well, I, I, I, I both. Work both in person, in, in, in Madrid, in my, in my office here and also online. And so when I, when I work online, I, I share also somatic practices and, and, and I guide them behind the screen. Behind the screen. But, but yes, I, there is also parts of the work which is around the body always.

Gabrielle Thil: I always say that I am a spiritual somatic love coach because [00:24:00] spiritually is an essential part and also the somatic work.

Sara Ferrer: So what’s, what’s I’m, let’s say a hypothetical, I’m your client, I do these courses with you. What’s a metric of success that, that you can say, okay sir, is it, Hey, I wanna find a boyfriend and I found a boyfriend through Gabriel.

Sara Ferrer: Is it something physi like, is it more an objective like that? How do you measure if the process is working versus, ’cause I’ve, I’ve found in my own journey of self-development, sometimes feelings can be fickle. Right. Like you feel good one day, you feel bad. The other, so is there, how do you know, or how does a client, ’cause you said word of mouth is very powerful.

Sara Ferrer: What does that testimonial look like? Does it look like, hey, like. I’m able to make decisions now or to say no more, or to realize I don’t need a man. I thought I needed a man, but that was because I needed myself. Like what’s the metric where you go, ah, there’s been progress here. My work is [00:25:00] measurable.

Gabrielle Thil: Yeah. So of course it depends where each woman at which moment of their journey, a start. But for example, for a woman who, um, eh. Is single and, and has the desire to, to meet someone. The progress she would feel is that she actually is really active to actually create opportunities for men to meet her, um, because many women actually feel stuck.

Gabrielle Thil: And where do I meet men? And, and, and so there is so much more behind this question, you know, because, uh, because usually they don’t create the opportunities yet because there is still some healing work to do because they still don’t trust themselves and there is. Still afraid to take this leap of faith, you know, so, so all the work is around, you know, feeling confident enough, brave enough, because you have to take this leap of faith to actually create the opportunities to, to meet the man who [00:26:00] is going to arise to, to their expectations, and, and also trusting that everything is happening for them and not to them.

Gabrielle Thil: And so why, when they meet someone and sometimes, you know, it doesn’t get. As well as they would hope they know how to do the healing work and start it again. You know, it’s, it’s really being in a movement, you know, instead of, woo, my God, it’s so hard, I don’t even know how to start, you know? And then, yes, trusting that the universe is going to meet you halfway, and, and that the, the man who is uh, um, meant for you actually is trying to manifest you at the same time, you know?

Sara Ferrer: Right. It sounds more like I’m under, if I’m understanding this correctly, it sounds more like there’s more balance, essentially. You know, the good things happen, the bad things happen. You’re not out of whack with either one. You understand? Like that’s what it’s sounding to me, is that. If you desire the husband, the boyfriend, they [00:27:00] will come.

Sara Ferrer: But understand that every bad date does not mean you’re unlovable. You’re never gonna find him. It just means it was a bad date. You’ll learn something, keep it moving. Maybe laugh at brunch over the girls about that schmuck, but like it’s not the end of the world. There’s a bit of balance there. So I, if I’m understanding that correctly, there’s just more equilibrium in between reality and feelings and the nervous system feeling like, hey.

Sara Ferrer: This is life, baby girl, you’ll be fine. Believe it and keep it moving. Is that kind of

Gabrielle Thil: Yeah, it’s because it can happen very fast and it can, it can happen a lot more slowly and it’s really about embracing it as a journey of expansion and evolution. And, and being open to the beautiful field of possibilities, you know, and, and when you shift your perspective and you start looking at your love life this way, actually it’s when you become ma magnetic also, you know, because, because yes, you, you, you just are okay with the reality.

Gabrielle Thil: You are in full acceptance. And also you [00:28:00] still take the, the, the, the steps to actually create opportunities and, and. You are true. You know, so it’s not thinking that, oh no, everything is fine. No, you are in, in, in your, you’re anchored in your body, in your sensation, in your feelings. You know how to process them, and still you don’t.

Gabrielle Thil: Let them lead your love life. You know, so, so you, you actually keep your vision alive and, and each, each, uh, new encounter, though sometimes not the best is, you know, a, a new step to get you closer to the, to your de desire and your vision.

Sara Ferrer: Well, Gabrielle, I wanna test your nervous system right now. Okay? You seem very calm, you seem very composed.

Sara Ferrer: You seem very collected. I wanna hit you with a surprise question. Okay? Let’s see. Let’s see. Let’s put it into practice, right? The unknown. Let’s see how you handle it. We asked, uh, Chenga, our last podcast guest to [00:29:00] ask a question for our next podcast guest. You have no idea what it is. So I’m just gonna throw it at you and see how you deal with it.

Sara Ferrer: She, she helps with intercultural understanding intercultural relationships and communications, especially in corporate America. And so under kind of that vein of international, uh, travel and communications, she wanted to know what is the most interesting place you have ever visited, and why was it interesting?

Gabrielle Thil: So one of the most interesting place I have visited is actually Tasmania in Australia because it was really like being in the wild. And you know, we, we have this wild part within us, but as we usually live, well, I actually, I live in a city, you know, it’s a lot more like, you know. Control. Everything is under control.

Gabrielle Thil: I would say, you know, in a, in a city at some point, Tasmania is still a very wild [00:30:00] part, and so it’s like. Everything can happen. And, and, and we, we visited different places in, in Tasmania, which is actually a small island, you know, in Australia. And there is an animal which you find in, in, in, in Australia, which is called the Tasmanian Devils.

Gabrielle Thil: So I guess you’ve heard about it and it’s actually a very dangerous, very small animal, but quite dangerous because, um, it’s, it actually can really, they, they eat their own mother, you know, it’s, and, and so we, we actually visited the, the house of a, a man who used to live in a very lonely place in, uh, in Tasmania.

Gabrielle Thil: And he had written his journal and in, in his journal he was saying, I am alone. And it’s winter. And I’m very afraid because. I fear that those animals at some point are going to eat me, and at some point nobody will ever be able to, to, to save me. So

Sara Ferrer: have a dark [00:31:00] side. Yeah. Serena has a dark side. I know. So I saw Serena starting to grin.

Sara Ferrer: It’s not funny, but it’s like, whoa, th this answer is layered and I’m loving it. Not what I thought where we were going with, with this, but I’m, I’m. Totally hooked. Gabrielle, I’m totally hooked.

Serena Reynolds: Oh my God,

Gabrielle Thil: yes. We’re in this place.

Serena Reynolds: We did say interesting. Not nice.

Gabrielle Thil: So many animals, you know, and so it’s really the wildlife and so it’s really reconnecting with, uh, this wild part within us.

Gabrielle Thil: And also so much vulnerability because everything can happen and, and, and you don’t control any, anything anymore.

Serena Reynolds: Well, we’re so top of the food chain, aren’t we? That we don’t even think. I mean, I, I live in England. I mean, we don’t even have dangerous spiders or snakes here. You know, I mean, there’s nothing to fear here.

Serena Reynolds: Apart from other people.

Gabrielle Thil: And in, in Australia it’s really, it’s really the wild, it’s really nature with so many different animals, which are really mortal in the very few, uh, short amount of time. [00:32:00] And so, yeah, it takes you back to, okay, let’s enjoy life now.

Sara Ferrer: What would you, what would, that was a great answer.

Sara Ferrer: Let me tell you. You gave us interesting. Very well. So Bravo. ’cause I was like that, that you took it there. Thank you. That was great. Now I’m like, I really need to investigate the Tasmanian devil more. But what would you ask? Let me ask you now, lemme present you with a question. What would you ask our future guests?

Sara Ferrer: You have no idea who they are, what industry they work in. So what would you ask them? Gabrielle? Any question you wanna pull out just to say, Hey, what do you think of X, Y, and Z?

Gabrielle Thil: I would love to learn more about their morning practice. Do they have a morning practice to actually elevate their energy, the in, in the morning before starting their day?

Gabrielle Thil: Because

Serena Reynolds: I drink coffee lots and lots and lots of coffee before the duvet comes off. That’s my morning ritual.

Sara Ferrer: Morning practice to elevate your morning, your, no, I love that. Serena. Serena. I thought the same thing. I [00:33:00] was like coffee and a good pastry that’ll get me there. I’m really into the pa. Let me tell you a little pepita.

Sara Ferrer: Ano can solve any problems.

Gabrielle Thil: You need to go to Paris because Madrid is not the place for past.

Sara Ferrer: I know. Oh, Gabrielle, I’ve been to Paris and let me tell you, I. In my next life I will be Parisian because it is a sin not to be exposed to that much goodness every single day. I hear what you’re saying. What is good in Madrid is average, at best in Paris.

Sara Ferrer: But just so I get this question right, so what is your morning practice to elevate your, your, your energy, your

Gabrielle Thil: yes and so to, to start your, your day with lovely light and uplifted energy.

Sara Ferrer: A part of me really hopes that our next guest is like, the complete opposite is someone who’s like a lawyer. What if we get like just a corporate hardass lawyer that’s like morning routine?

Sara Ferrer: I, you know, I I, I always love when we, because the thing is we [00:34:00] give these questions and like, listen, sometimes it doesn’t resonate with the person in the moment, and I actually think that’s okay because what it does is it creates the wheels of like, well, I don’t have a morning routine. I don’t have that.

Sara Ferrer: And I, I,

Serena Reynolds: I love the juxtaposition that this brings into the conversation.

Sara Ferrer: Yes, absolutely. It keeps the conversation interesting. And if, you know, for our listeners who say, listen, Gabrielle, like I’m just inspired by the story of, of listening to oneself and self-development and making a career out of it.

Sara Ferrer: And again, your energy even, you know, even over. Even over the, the computer. It’s, it’s, it’s calming. It feels very tranquil. So for people who want to learn more about how to, you know, how to work the process, where do they find you? I know you said word of mouth, but is website,

Serena Reynolds: which we will have on our website, fearless and flawed.com, as Sara always forgets to point that out.

Gabrielle Thil: Yeah, so also on social media of course, and especially Instagram. I [00:35:00] love Instagram. I also have a website under my name, so gabriel Thil.com and yeah, so you, they will find actually free resources and, uh, different posts to, to dive a bit more into, into this beautiful spiritual somatic journey.

Sara Ferrer: I really hope there’s like a resource on, on your website of just you reading me something.

Sara Ferrer: ’cause you have such a pleasant, calming voice. Has anyone told you that? Like it’s very soothing, you know? Has anyone told you that? Do, do you feel that way Serena, it’s just like,

Gabrielle Thil: yes. When I was actually working in the, in the enter industry, sometime people were asking me to do some voiceovers. Yes.

Sara Ferrer: Okay. Maybe that’s the next career, the next career.

Sara Ferrer: Once you’ve maxed out, once you’ve said, my work here is done, I’m gonna become a, a voice artist.

Serena Reynolds: Have you ever noticed, Gabrielle, how Americans love European accents? Oh yeah. My French accent, yes.

Gabrielle Thil: A bit too strong [00:36:00] sometime, but Oh, when she said petty, I just died earlier. I, I guess it’s part of my term. Yes.

Sara Ferrer: You own it, your own, your whole story has been very interesting with, again, your self-development, making that into a career and helping others. So this has been a real treat. Gabrielle, um, chatting with you and to any of our listeners, you know how to find her. It’ll be on our website and we wish nothing but the best in, in your continuing journey and for your clients.

Serena Reynolds: Thank you so much, Gabrielle.

Gabrielle Thil: Really lovely to, to chat and, and. And have this conversation with you.